Comments on Obsolete: Why I (might) be joining the Labour party (for at least a year).

The big problem with the Labour meetings still bas...

2010-06-30T08:09:11.304+01:00

The big problem with the Labour meetings still basically new labour, how do you get your comments heard. The last time I was at a meeting I tried to make a comment and was told to sit down shut up, we have enough bloody old labour farts here now, that was it for me, the love affair between new labour and Thatcher is still around.

Of course shouting "waa cuts" doesn'...

2010-06-25T18:35:40.506+01:00

Of course shouting "waa cuts" doesn't make up for them being "savagely illiberal". And before we get ahead of ourselves, abandoning ID cards or not, and if Labour had won and had the slightest sense they would have been one of the first things on the necessary bonfire, our new masters aren't cutting back 28 day detention without charge for "terrorist suspects" for six months yet, and most likely won't after that. There's one of those compromises of government I suppose.

If I am going to join the party one of the things I will most certainly be fighting for is a reappraisal and readjustment of their policies on civil liberties and liberty in general, not excluding law and order. They have far more to apologise on that score, and which they should say sorry for, than for "bankrupting" the country when instead they stopped it from going under, which is more than can be said for the impact this new budget may well have.

No. You're now thinking of supporting the part...

2010-06-25T18:20:15.138+01:00

No. You're now thinking of supporting the party responsible for the most savage assault on civil liberties in British history.

You're doing so because they no longer have to endure the fiscal compromises of Govenernment and can simply shout "Waaa Cuts" from the sidelines.

You think shouting "Waaaa Cuts" makes up for being savagely illiberal just a few short weeks ago.

If civil liberty's your bag, you cannot support labour. Not until they apologised and atoned for their savagery in Government.

Self-interestedly justifying Further fiscal incontinence is NOT a sufficient justification.

You've just contradicted yourself. Apologists...

2010-06-25T16:54:09.556+01:00

You've just contradicted yourself. Apologists for the assaults on civil liberties would call them the compromises of government; now you're attacking me for not doing the former while ignoring the latter.

Unable to handle the compromises of Government, yo...

2010-06-25T15:44:25.949+01:00

Unable to handle the compromises of Government, you can only bring yourself to join the party after it's bankrupted the country, but is back in opposition, shouting "CUTS! Waaaaa..." from the sidelines

And you'll ignore 13 years of the most Savage assault on civil libeties.

Very mature.

After the latest election, where I voted Lib Dem f...

2010-06-25T14:22:12.999+01:00

After the latest election, where I voted Lib Dem for the second time, I decided to join the Labour Party.